Think I am correct on the areas where I said we would agree and disagree.
Understand where I am coming from on areas of disagreement.
Or are you saying you agree with my view of the role of asshole game, and the success of sociopathic or naturally asshole personalities?
Remember I am arguing that:
While nice-guys do not necessarily lose, they are disadvantaged.
While assholes and sociopaths do not always win, they have certain advantages.
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October 4, 2009 11:30 am
I am comfortable to leave this discussion even if we do not agree. Not every argument or discussion has to have a winner. The discussion itself can be interesting and fun.
October 4, 2009 11:42 am
Default I agree with everything you said. I hope women reading here will be encouraged to think beyond their biological drives and their hypergamous desires and dig deeper for a look at the character of a man. There are decent women as well as decent men who are being over looked.
October 4, 2009 12:40 pm
Just to be clear I have no bitterness towards women. Until I can become attracted to a facially unattractive overweight woman of character, I will not expect women to overlook their concerns (hypergamy, dominance). I expect neither to happen in the near future (even as age takes my own attractiveness).
It is a shame that good character and sexual attractiveness do not always go together but that is life. Indeed, from an evo-psych (overused and dogma prone, I know) perspective it makes sense. If we are attempting to choose good genes than we want markers of good genes that are hard to fake. For women those markers are facial beauty and signs of fertility. For men those things are traits of aggression and dominance (mostly an inborn trait).
Character is an earned trait (something we work on, often working against "our genes") and not necessarily an inborn one. In other words, just because they have good character is no guarantee (from an evo point of view) that your children will.